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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By KJ (Admin) on Wednesday, November 03, 1999 - 06:47 pm: Edit

Are there any really good politicians in town?

Who supports our issues? Who doesnt?

And how about the Presidential election?

Why dont very many people vote anymore?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Tommy on Thursday, January 27, 2000 - 06:14 pm: Edit

Who are the democrats out there supporting for president? Why?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Comtessa on Monday, January 31, 2000 - 06:57 pm: Edit

KJ... I care! I just dont know.
We students live in a world set apart from the rest of the universe it consists of equal parts alcohol, coffee, books and whining.
It would be GREAT if the GPC would run a bit on the presidential candidates!!!!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ricksdad on Thursday, February 03, 2000 - 09:30 pm: Edit

Im probably voting for Gore. He seems to have the most consistent record of support for GLBT issues. Bradley is a gay supporter-come-lately.

I worry that theyll both be users like Clinton, though.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By S_gibson on Thursday, February 03, 2000 - 10:32 pm: Edit

Gore for president? Y not??? i hate to upset many people but i must admit the country is probablly in the greatest shape it has been in since i have been on this earth for the past 37 yrs.. I really get upset listening to the Great Jerk off Rush Limbaugh and how horrible the democratic party is.. But than again if we vote Republican maybe we can finally get rid of R.Limbaugh.. God what would he talk about if a republican was in office?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Hal on Saturday, February 12, 2000 - 10:50 am: Edit

Probably what he talked about during the Bush I administration: The Way Things Ought To Be, feminazis, and, of course, those awful homa-sek-shulls.

But finding out is not worth having a Bush II. For just one example: Ralph Reed, the former head of the Christian Coalition, is an advisor to the W. campaign. Elect George, and guess who advises him on his Supreme Court appointments.

A better way to flush Rush: change the station. Then call a few of his advertisers and tell them about it.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ricksdad on Saturday, February 12, 2000 - 06:32 pm: Edit

Dont forget to do the same for our favorite nude poster girl, Dr. Laura

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Admin on Thursday, February 17, 2000 - 08:50 pm: Edit

Ladies and Gentlemen, please turn your attention to our latest stories about the people who may be your next president.

HRC gives its nod to Al Gore for president
Presidential candidates take stands on GLBT issues

Is everyone registered to vote? If not, why?

For 10 points and whats behind curtain #2, who can tell us the deadline for registering to vote in the general election in November?
Where do you sign up?
Can it be done online anywhere?

Lets find out and post the info here.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Bendog on Monday, February 21, 2000 - 11:41 am: Edit

Rush and Laura articulate the major frustrations of a lot of people. I dont know that they ofer any constructive? solutions for these people; they just vent and in the long run people ar more confused and frustrated than ever. That is probably to our advantage. As irritating as these two are they dont realy get anything done.

If we ignore tham and write the sponsors, maybe someone will come along that will actually be able to educate in a compassionate way and pull people together.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ricksdad on Tuesday, February 22, 2000 - 06:29 pm: Edit

I was speaking with a newspaper publisher a conservative Christian who was thinking about writing an editorial about how one of the items on The Gay Agenda is to fight Dr. Lauras freedom of speech. I told her Dr. Laura would have been taken off the air a long time ago if she was attacking some other minority group who is less disenfranchised than gay people. I also pointed out that gay groups who complain about Dr. Laura are no different from groups like Rev. Donald Wildmons cant think of the name who actively protest TV shows they think are pro-abortion or pro-homo or pro-anything that the Christian right is against. I think she got it, but it was hard to tell.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Bendog on Tuesday, February 22, 2000 - 08:41 pm: Edit

Dr. Laura does have freedom of speech, but so does the glb/t community. Actually if we can offer more than just complaining, if we can offer a way out of anger and frustration we probably have a better shot at getting our message across than Dr. Laura. If we present the facts, and articulate the expeiences of almost every family in America we will have won.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Kramer on Friday, April 14, 2000 - 05:11 pm: Edit

RE: Bush to meet with gay Republicans, but not Log Cabin

Ive said it before and Ill say it again - gay Republicans?! Whats up with that?
Are they surprised they were snubbed? He only met with people he was comfortable with - of course, probably because he knew in advance how they would act, what they would say, etc.

If a presidential candidate avoided another minority group like they do gays, the press and the public would be in an uproar. If gay Republicans have to hound him for a meeting, then that should be a good sign that he has no intention of ever supporting our cause. If and when he does meet, it is just to get them and the media of his back.
If he truly cared, he would ask for a meeting himself and make a point to learn our concerns and issues.
Give up on this guy already, hell bring nothing but heartache down the road. Support Gore, who we know will be on our side. Put the effort towards someone we know can help us.

My 2 cents.......

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Mikel on Friday, April 14, 2000 - 05:54 pm: Edit

Does anyone have the info regarding: http://www.gaypeopleschronicle.com/discus/messages/45/48.html#POST158

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Admin on Friday, April 14, 2000 - 06:43 pm: Edit

The above message refers to the post above about deadlines for voter registration, etc.

Find out more here:

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Punkrawkdyke on Tuesday, April 18, 2000 - 02:58 pm: Edit

Log Cabin Republicans remind me of the outcast kids in Jr. High who wanted more than anything to be friends with the popular kids.

They would let the popular kids shame them, beat on them, take their money.

All the while thinking that one day the abuse would stop and they would be welcomed into the clique.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Admin on Saturday, August 12, 2000 - 05:35 pm: Edit

The latest stories on the campaign trail:
Gore�s VP pick Lieberman has a mixed record on gay issues. Voted against �don�t ask,� but voted for DOMA

GOP seems to reach out to gays at its convention

Log Cabin Republicans endorse Bush-Cheney ticket

Democrats include gays in platform

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Admin on Monday, August 21, 2000 - 04:15 pm: Edit

The latest political stories.

Five Ohio delegates join Dem lesbian-gay caucus

Dems give gays what they want
HRCs Birch addresses convention

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Don on Thursday, August 24, 2000 - 03:35 pm: Edit

I am pleased to see that 5 G/L delegates
were sent on our behalf. Sounds like we are
making progress.

I watched part of the Republican Convention,
and, they paraded every possible minority
accross the stage like a skit from Saturday
Night Live: A person in a wheel chair, a black,
Asian, American Indian, etc. The hipocracy
never seizes to amaze me.
Bill Clintons quote, They looked like the members of my staff was a classic, and, the
Republicans probably didnt even realize what he
was talking about.

Anyway, the Christian Right still scares me, and,
even though Bush isnt making a strong public connection to them, he is still in strong
affiliation to the Christian Right. This new
Compasionate Republican is a great cover for

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Comtessa on Thursday, August 24, 2000 - 10:59 pm: Edit

This man is a Compassionate Conservative like my grandmothers a toaster oven!

In my mind, the death penalty is as far from compassionate as you can get. This man has presided over the murder of many, many prisoners in Texas.

I have no respect for someone claiming the description compassionate, who then dares to pull a media stunt in which a prisoners execution is TELEVISED, with the politicians picture being flashed across the screen above the words George W. Bush commands the execution.

How absolutely grotesque and pitiful, that he could take responsibility for something so horrendous, then claim to be compassionate.

No, thank you.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Admin on Friday, August 25, 2000 - 03:45 pm: Edit

How To Be A Good Republican:

1. You have to believe that the nations current 8-year prosperity was due to the work of Ronald Reagan and George Bush, but yesterdays gasoline prices are all Clintons fault.

2. You have to believe that those privileged from birth achieve success all on their own.

3. You have to be against all government programs, but expect Social Security checks on time.

4. You have to believe that someone like Michelle Pfeiffer can really walk into an inner city classroom and accomplish miracles.

5. AIDS victims deserve their disease, but smokers with lung cancer and overweight individuals with heart disease dont deserve theirs.

6. You have to appreciate the power rush that comes with sporting a gun.

7. You have to believe...everything Rush Limbaugh says.

8. You have to believe that the agricultural, restaurant, housing and hotel industries can survive without immigrant labor.

9. You have to believe God hates homosexuality, but loves the death penalty.

10. You have to believe society is color-blind and growing up black in America doesnt diminish your opportunities, but you still wont vote for Alan Keyes.

11. You have to believe that pollution is OK as long as it makes a profit.

12. You have to believe in prayer in schools, as long as you dont pray to Allah or Buddha.

13. You have to believe Newt Gingrich and Henry Hyde were really faithful husbands.

14. You have to believe speaking a few Spanish phrases makes you instantly popular in the barrio.

15. You have to believe that only your own teenagers are still virgins.

16. You have to be against government interference in business, until your oil company, corporation or Savings and Loan is about to go broke and you beg for a government bail out.

17. You love Jesus and Jesus loves you and, by the way, Jesus shares your hatred for AIDS victims, homosexuals, and President Clinton.

18. You have to believe government has nothing to do with providing police protection, national defense, and building roads.

19. You have to believe a poor, minority student with a disciplinary history and failing grades will be admitted into an elite private school with a $1,000 voucher.

20. You only wanted Elian Gonzalez to stay in order to peeve the President.


People, PLEASE get out and vote.
Clinton had a great quote, here it is:

In this election, everything is at stake, all the achievements weve made in the past eight years are at risk. We are going to either take a step forward or were going to make a U-turn and go back to the days of deficits, discrimination and derision.

You cant vote if youre not registered!
You can register and get info here:
Click here to register


p.s. heres the disclaimer I feel I need to state to head off any potential backlash against the fine folks at the Chronicle for any perceived un-PC commentary on my part.

I am the moderator of this discussion board. I am not paid or employed by the Chronicle, and therefore, the views, comments and humor expressed here are mine alone. If youre a Republican and disagree with my views, then get out there and help change the face of your party.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Don on Saturday, September 02, 2000 - 06:38 pm: Edit

I enjoyed the above Being a good Republican,
its honesty and humor. Actually, I grew up in
a Republican home... By parents,who always claimed,
to be independent, but the majority of the time,
voted Republican. I understand and agree with
fiscal responsiblity, and for the most part,
want the government to stay out of my life.

However, I started being a Clinton follower
the past 4 years, and, changed my party to
Democrat when, I believe, the Republicans became
the true Christian Right party and succeeded in
impeaching President Clinton for an affair he
had with that woman. Yes, it was about sex.
And, with that, I was soooo ashamed to be a
Republican, I then changed parties. Like Gingrich
and Henry Hyde, the hipocracy reigned as I had
never witnessed before in my 38 years on earth !!!

And, for all that Bush, jr. stands for, I would
do anything in my power, or at least campaign
strategy, to make sure a Republican does NOT
get into the White House again !!!

Get out and vote !!!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Comtessa on Friday, February 09, 2001 - 08:10 pm: Edit

Wondering who on this list has read the allegations in this weeks Chronicle, from an anonymous group of individuals calling themselves the Cleveland ARA. I would be interested to know others responses to this!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Tommy on Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 11:44 am: Edit

What article are you referring to?
Is it on the website? Or just in the printed version?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Comtessa on Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 06:02 pm: Edit

I believe it is a letter to the editor, just in the printed version, I was unable to find it on the website. Someone else told me it was in this weeks issue, and Ive been unable to get my hands on a paper copy.

I have a good idea what the letter says, from the description given to me from a friend, and I have already read similar writings from other things they have been doing recently.

I have grave concerns about the letter, its contents, and the people writing it. From what I know of them, they are mostly angry teenagers who are out to get anyone and everyone who gets in their way. I am extremely concerned that the GPC published their letter, because I feel that the facts in this case are shaky or nonexistent.

Ive put together a website with more information on this issue; please look there to get a better idea of what has been happening with this organization in the past few weeks: www.geocities.com/YouthRallyCraziness

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Josh2 on Thursday, May 31, 2001 - 09:35 am: Edit

Wow, talk about a good few weeks!
Mayor White announces he wont run for another term. Maybe now our schools will get tax money for new development instead the rich getting more tax abatement.

And, THE BIG ONE, the Democrats take back control of the Senate! How cool is that?!
It will add much needed balance to the scene in DC. Gore must be smiling, a little at least.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Sarah on Thursday, July 26, 2001 - 08:59 pm: Edit

Is there any interest out there for the Cleveland City Council race that is coming up this election? Although I am talking specifically about Ward 14 - and I will preface right here and now that I am working on Joe Santiagos campaign -I am also curious about all the other ward races, as well.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Wkjce_Radio on Friday, January 04, 2002 - 05:59 am: Edit

Equality For All, can it exist ?? part 2 of 2


Erie /Oil City Pa--

Equality For All, can it exist ??
Well after something I witness with my own two eyes I cant really say for sure ..
A good friend who is currently a preop and I were at a local GLBT club in Erie ...
When we were sitting at the bar she turned to me and told me she had to use the ladies room.
As soon as she went to the ladies room
It was no sooner than she did,
A group of lesbians who started to complain that she my friend was in the womans room.
yes its was the age old question which bathroom was she surposed to use

Well they werent in the bathroom when she went in
But they had seen her walk in and decided
ok lets start some trouble ..
My friend had already gotten permission to use the ladies room from the bar owner .
In the mean time the other lesbians in the group tried
to agitate the bartender so much that he had to get the bar owner
The bar owner talked to my friend about the bathroom
and said she couldnt do that.
As of current date the situation has a temporary solution
that the owner has included in the policy of the bar,
and he has developed a work around solution to the problem.
I guess its a small start in the right direction.

However everytime it seems there is this one lesbian
that still tries to start problems with my friend or any one that knows us ..

It was after I wrote this story Equality For All about Augest 2001

That I realized Equality For All may still be a long shot before it can become a reality
We have to rid our own GLBT community of the prejudice..
Before we can hope to be accepted by the rest of the world
and until that happens and the GLBT community unites together
than it will be a long time before
some of the dreams we have even become possiable..
Yes Iam a gay man since age 18,
and no I dont have any problems with lesbians
or anyone else for that matter,
My aunt is lesbian and her and I have a great time talking about the isssues
and other things..
As far as me,
Well I am currently dating that Friend of mine,
who is a TG mentoned in this story,
which is a new step for me since I have been gay most of my life.
I have already accepted her as being a woman,
but love has a way of changing things, dosnt it :)

I just wounder what the local GLBT community will have to say on my current love and I .
Who cares I have found happiness:)


Update: The friend I was dating in this story left me on Nov 13 2001
for other reasons like partying and drugs..
However I have being seeing another TG person
and came down to visit Cleveland Ohio during the Holidays.
Well needless to say the same attitude exists here as well,
Some of the Girls at a local bar here in Ohio,
Lydias have seemed to turned their back on my freind,
and seem to have segregated the bathrooms as well
One is for real ladies and the other is combined for ladies and men ...
Whats up with that ???
Again this reporter would like to know..
Can and will Equality For All, ever exist ??

this story can be found online at our newsroom .. http://www.frn.net/wkjce/newsroom/

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Wkjce_Radio on Friday, January 04, 2002 - 06:02 am: Edit

Equality For All part 1of 2


Oil City-- It was about 4 weeks ago, That I saw something unusual,
unusual that is for the town of Oil City.

It happened about August 6th,
I saw a couple holding hands coming across
Veterans Memorial Bridge and thought nothing of it, until
they came closer, it was two guys holding hands and having a good time from the expressions on their faces and as they came closer I could hear them laugh.
Since I havent seen anything like this.
I decided to follow them and continue my quest for knowledge by watching a bit.

It wasnt long before a negative comment came from a passing motorist.
The motorist waited, than yelled out
Oh God oh God. Faggots and continued to yell other obscenities, as he finished his turn and drove on.
I looked over towards the couple whom I call Robert and Jim.
The names were changed to protect identity of the parties involved.
They didnt seem to be bothered or even dazed by the comment from the motorist,
Jim said something to Robert and they both laughed and carried on their way.
More obscenities were yelled from passing motorists and some from those walking as well,
I decided to ask if this unacceptable behavior they receive is common place, and how upsetting it is?
They both said its upsetting and yes its very common here in this small town.
Jim and Robert continued on their journey, their destination was a restaurant.
After they were done at the restaurant, they walked to the park,
As I left our couple in the park watching the lighting storm, I couldnt help but wonder,
What gives us as humans whom are not perfect by any means the right to hate and judge others
that are different than us?

So I took to the internet,
I came across The Equality Project Website,
And I quote from their website, Many people who are deemed different, sinful, or second best and have long been tormented by our society, including lesbians, gay men, bisexual, transgender, transsexual persons, people of non-Christian religions, non-white people, people who speak other languages, people who come from other lands or cultures, older citizens, persons with differing degrees of physical or mental ability, those suffering from mental illness, people of lower economic classes, people without higher education, people of size, and women. Not only have these people been treated as second class citizens by society, but they have also been deprived of their rightful place in history and because of that, their rightful place in the shaping of the future..In our society there are many examples of this taught hatred. We are taught that being gay/lesbian/bisexual/transgender is wrong for whatever reason and by doing so, we teach those children who happen to be lesbian/gay/bisexual/transgender that they are evil, sinful, and are damned to hell for all of eternity for simply being who they are.

Ill continue.., We teach our children that only the religion that they grew up in is the right one, that people who practice a different religion or people who embody some religiously forbidden characteristic or way of life are sinful and wrong and are to be shunned and treated as second best. We teach our children that the religion that they grow up with is the one and only true religion those who do not believe and support that religion will suffer. We teach our children that the religion they grow up with alone should dictate the morals and behaviors of all people, regardless of their own personal beliefs. We teach our children that people who are different are somehow bad and to be avoided or even ostracized. People who are taller, shorter, darker, lighter, speak with an accent or speak another language, wear glasses, are fatter or skinnier, have different levels of physical or mental abilities, dress different, or are in any other way different from the deemed acceptable norm are to be avoided and viewed s somehow less of a person with less rights. This has to stop! We as a global society have to learn to allow our children to be who they are, to accept them as they are, and to learn what we can from them. All forms of blind hatred are no longer acceptable and We should support and encourage equality for all humans, including those of different races, religions, languages, ages, sizes, genders, sexual orientations, physical or mental abilities, and cultural backgrounds because, after all, we all have something valuable to contribute to this world and it is only through acknowledging and celebrating this diversity of people that we can fully enjoy the beauty and other benefits which come with that diversity.

As I continued to surf the net, I came across another quote,

This type of hatred is learned behavior, David Long said. It is taught in our homes, it is taught in our churches and then it gets validated in our schools. As a society we have to refuse to tolerate it.

A few wise words feel free to interchange any of the groups of people with the groups discussed here as the result will always be the same:

First they came for the Communists, and I didnt speak up,
because I wasnt a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I didnt speak up,
because I wasnt a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics, and I didnt speak up,
because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me, and by that time
there was no one left to speak up for me.
--- Said by Rev. Martin J. Niemoller in 1945

We seem to be ready to accept beings from another planet or planets, but we cant accept those whom are different in our own community
Something we need to think about.

Please note: This reporter would like to say that there may be some churches/homes that have been teaching equality for all humans, for that I would like to thank them.

Websites of interest related to this story
The Equality Project

Personal Expressions -
http://www.personal-expressions.tzo.net/ -backup domain

Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays
PFLAG - http://www.pflag.org/
PFLAG of Du Bois - http://www.personal-expressions.net/glbt/PFLAG/ -main domain
http://www.personal-expressions.tzo.net/glbt/PFLAG/ -backup domain


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Wandawet on Monday, April 15, 2002 - 06:53 pm: Edit

Its quite pathetic that the only lesbian member of the Ohio House of Representatives is retiring without claiming her membership in the lesbian/gay/bi/trans community. She really doesnt deserve recognition for her efforts on behalf of that same community because she wont claim membership. Good riddance to closeted rubbish.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Xhxcxnancy on Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 02:19 pm: Edit

I am doing a speech for a college class. if anyone would like to share their views on making making gay/lesbian violence a hate crime please post your comments. i am open to any perspective.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Robert on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 11:16 pm: Edit


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Misio on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 08:42 pm: Edit

this is off-topic but it is very important to me im posting this in every forum.
can anyone tell me if there are any gay friendly churches or religious organizations in cleveland area i have no religious preference. im looking to find a new church because my pastor recently preached about the evils of homosexual lifestyle.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Bwaynef on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 03:55 pm: Edit

To Misio regarding gay friendly churches:

Im not a church goer myself, but Pilgrim Congregational United Church of Christ in Tremont may be what you are looking for. I suspect it is gay friendly because they once staged some Tennessee Williams plays that I attended some years ago. They also sponsor art related events. Here is their contact info:

Pilgrim Congregational United Church of Christ
2592 W. 14 Street
Cleveland, Ohio 44113
216 861-7388
Contact: Rev. Craig Schaub, Rev. Laurie Hafner

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Tigereye on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 04:50 am: Edit

There is a gay United Church of Christ in Lakewood. It is Liberation UCC, at the corner of Parkwood and Madison. Phone 216-521-5556. There are also a bazillion other queer churches and religious organizations listed in the resource directory on this site: www.gaypeopleschronicle.com/resources/resources or just go back to the main page and click Resources and Links in the upper right corner.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Bwaynef on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 06:44 pm: Edit

A freelance writer friend of mine needs GLBT parents to discuss teen pregnancy and their experiences with it with their child. Anyone here familiar with such a situation or know someone who would be willing to be interviewed anonymously if necessary? Write me at brianwfairbanks@yahoo.com

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Kacer on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 11:24 am: Edit

Greetings All!

This is more a political ISSUE than a politics comment. Theres a new group forming in the Central Ohio Area called: The Central Ohio Pink Pistols.

Central Ohio Pink Pistols is a diverse group of men and women promoting the safe and responsible use of firearms for recreation, competition and self-defense among gays, lesbians, bisexuals and the transgendered. We no longer believe it is the right of those who hate and fear gay, lesbian, bi, trans, or polyamorous persons to use us as targets for their rage.

Check out www.pinkpistols.org to find out more information on the national organization. For the Central Ohio Pink Pistols chapter go to: http://www.freeohio.us/pinkpistols/

Meetings are open to all, regardless of shooting experience or sexual orientation, yes this means heterosexuals are also welcome ;. You do not have to own a gun to participate. Our philosophy -- Armed Gays Dont Get Bashed!

So questions? Comments? What are your views/ concerns?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Rosietheriveter on Friday, December 19, 2003 - 02:34 am: Edit

Whats cleveland about? Swinging to the left?, right? Are you a democrat town, or republican?
Thanks. Im relocating from california and you know who our govenor is. Spare me!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Isarbaermm on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 02:39 am: Edit

register to vote...so we can vote out the hated bigoted republicans out of Ohio...also we need to group to throw OUT George Voinovich from his US Senate seat.
George has been on lockstep with the Bush Adminstration all the time-even voting against our civil rights, for taxcuts....the taxcuts account for half of the annual federal deficits. Never mind his purposely limiting a Bush tax-cut package...it was a publicity stunt.}
He ran Ohio as a governor for two terms-even striking down sexual orientation from the Celeste executive order by sunsetting it out. His cronies-like Rob Tongren turned to be pro business and anti-civil rights. The Ohio Voinovich adminstraton was the most corrupt-which Mr Taft inherited-with those corrupt cronies still in place. Some of the Voinovich cronies have been forced out in scandals already.
Lets vote the corrupt republicans out of Ohio as well as Voinovich out of the US Senate....IF we register and fight back!!!!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Demian on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 02:31 pm: Edit

http://www.guerrillanews.com/ I noticed some gay bashing going on at guerilla news network. I think some of us should go there and post some political views and stand our ground. Not all people are gay bashers there but I think this forum needs our presence in order to keep balance. Some very degenerated heteros seem to have created an aggressive insider forum, which tries to intimidate gays and other users. The very slow moving chat can also be used to get our views across.
After all, the guerrillas aren�t that guerrilla but are rather gorilla.
The chat is under the forum and a pop up window allows for political discussion.
Please bring some new spirit into that forum if you wish. If even the liberals are so retarded one wonders what are we dealing with here anyway.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Dthomas on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 06:16 am: Edit

The 2004 election offers a historic choice between pro-gay Democrat John Kerry and Republican incumbent George Bush, who has stabbed the gay community in the back by backing a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. Ohio is THE swing state for the 2004 election cycle. The history of America will be decided in Ohio. Whoever is elected will likely have the opportunity to appoint three or more Supreme Court justices, who may serve FOR LIFE!! Not voting, or voting Republican, has the potential to flush gay rights down the toilet not for years, but for DECADES.

I for one dont want to wait 30 or more years for the chance to marry my partner; we may not be around that long. It is imperative that the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and ally community vote for President John Kerry, senate candidate Eric Fingerhut, and the Democratic US Representative candidates Seeman, Konop, Mitakides, Cafaro, others so that we can stop the Republican reign of terror against all of us. The deadline for voter registration is rapidly approaching. If youre not registered to vote - register! If you are, register a gay friend whos not! Volunteer for the Kerry or Fingerhut campaign, or for one of the House candidates. And vote on November 2, and bring all your friends too!! This is the election of a lifetime - and this is our chance to swing the history of America in our favor - lets not piss it away!!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Bernsen on Thursday, October 21, 2004 - 02:05 am: Edit

Hi all. I just joined the boards here,... and I joined cause I need some info, please. Anyone who may have some worhtwhile leads- please, feel free to comment.

I have already made certain that I AM registered to vote, here in Ohio. The Big elections are coming up and, NO WAY! am I being left out.
Every GLBT/Questioning/curious, etc., vote-
every ONE of OUR votes counts like GOLD, counts like never before, in this Presidential race! Seriously- and not blowing things outa proportion, I REALLY, REALLY HOPE YOU ALL SIGNED UP TO VOTE.

All right, enough of that. Heres my problem:
Like alot of peolpe I know-
My professional/personal time is at a CRITICAL premium, right now. I AM GONNA VOTE IN NOVEMBER,
....but, outside of voting for KERRY,..........
since Im so busy- right now,...
I dont have a good, comprehensive TAKE, on ALL
Outside of calling up University GLBT groups, in Akron and/or Kent, and asking for information and opinions .... I always try to check out THE GAY PEOPLES CHRONICLE-.... since I believe this is the MAIN Gay periodical in Akron. SO,....
does anyone out thereFOR MY BENEFIT, AND THE BENEFIT OF OTHERS WHO MAY BE READING THIS- does anyone know of a WEBSITE, a BOOKLET, a SEMINAR/TALK/DISCUSSION going on somewhere,
a PAMPHLET, a WELL-READ INDIVIDUAL???- SOME RESOURCE, at this time, which I/WE ALL can access
before VOTING DAY, to CLUE US ALL IN, so that we can REALLY make a difference, when we go to vote?

A friend of mine, which I spoke to recently, may have something for me. Ill post it, if I believe it to be worthwhile.

I was listening to the News, and watching T.V. recently:

Certain public individuals are now- MORE BLATANTLY- SLAPPING OUR FACES with EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN, RELIGIOUS RIGHT SUPPORTED,JUST SHORT OF OUTRIGHT SLURS commentary, all against GAY MARRIAGE. ISSUE 1, I believe, in the state of Ohio, is what theyll be hoping to pass in NovemberI believe thats correct.
So, unless Im corrected,...VOTE NO! ON ISSUE 1.

The stone TEN COMANDMENTS monument, that was removed from Alabamas State Judicial Building,
has been HAULED up here, and parked in some local church, here in Akron, somewhere.......
...Hmmmmm, in a PIVOTAL state like Ohio,...oh, and so close to voting time, too.

Today, listening to the tube, I heard a report of some RIGHT-WING religious individuals... TRYING.... in what seemed to be an effective, politically viable manner- to OUTLAW HOLLOWEEN! WTF!
Outside of a fun holiday for most Americans, I happen to know some Pagans, to whom, this is A MAJOR HOLY DAY IN THEIR RELIGIOUS PRACTICE!
And you can bet your ass- that the Right knows this!

They were just at Akron U, preaching their intolerance; with banners! If things werent so serious- Id laugh.

And now, that CHRIS REEVE just passed away, and his STEM CELL RESEARCH CAUSE received a HUGE posthumous push,... -THE CHURCHES-... are saying that they will do everything- short of ex-communicating you, if youre a parishoner,.... IF you dont vote for Bush.
Again, WTF!
for what its worth- also in the newscast- the GOVERNMENT0h, yayy.... is stepping in saying:
HEY waitaminit!,.. ya cant FORCE votes LIKE THAT!
Dang!......Ya think!

The Religious Right is pulling out all the stops in this election! Thats why its so unbelievably important for all of usGLBTQC and FRIENDS to get out there and vote! Ya gotta!

So again,...
if anyone knows of any relevant GLBTQC voting recomendations resources, for the Akron/OHIO area- please, let us all know.

As I mentioned at the begining, I just registered
to post-.... my first time here. Please excuse me,... if I seem a bit over-zealous, or otherwise inappropriate. Its an important issue for me.
And this Political forum-..... an opportunity.
Im very probably.... not yet wholy cognizant, of the interactive aspects of this place.

Thank you all for reading- AND considering.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Sodomaniac on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 10:11 am: Edit

I recently read that former Lakewood mayor Madeline Cain was hired as a Professor of Propaganda at Cleveland State University. She joins a long list of politicians who were booted from office only to magically reappear back on a taxpayer-financed payroll, including but certainly not limited to former state senator Jeff Johnson,now employed as a minority affairs officer in Mayor Jane Campbells administration after going to prison for extorting money from Arab business owners, former Cleveland City Council members Allen Kosen who went to work in then-U.S. representative Mary Rose Oakars office and Robert Getz who became head of the citys Streets Department. Former state representatives Patrick Sweeney and Frank Mahnic found employment at Cleveland State University and the Cuyahoga County Auditors office, respectively. The list goes on and on. It would appear that politicians are more interested in protecting their own than tackling issues that affect us all. Clevelands Fair Housing and Emplyment law is weak, inadequate and difficult to enforce, at best.New HIV infections continue unabated in this city. Hostility and violange toward Queers continues, too, yet all is apparently well as long as politicians retain their power and prestige. Perhaps voters would be best served by holding politicians accountable for their love of patronage. Throw the bums out!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Bwaynef on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 12:08 pm: Edit

Politicians are like Dracula, and not only because they refuse to die. They suck us dry for their own benefit, not ours.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Gurubuddy on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 04:29 pm: Edit

Bwaynet is right. In politics, local, they can cause you to be snubbed at certain events if you disagreed with them on a town issue.
Or, if you think he/shes a jerk for being straight and somehow at one time or other he/she heard about it.
Or, if you come out to a fake gay touting politician, it is their end in life to destroy you, and lying isnt beyond them to make sure you suffer for all the rest of your life...or move out of town.
And,... the stories go on and on and on. Soooo, guess how much power a President has now?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Bigdan on Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 11:47 am: Edit

I watched a documentary, that I got from my Netfilx subscription yesterday, that I recomened you see, if your at all interested in human right, gay rights, or how low humanity can sink.

Its called Living Dangerously:comming out in the developing world. This documentary came out before the two young boys in iran were hanged becasue they were gay.I know that there were stories in the news afterwords trying to smear the boys names but, I for one dont belive it.I really truely belive those young boys were hanged because they were gay.

Id really like to know what the parents feel/did/ or felt about their kids being hanged.Do they agree that it was best for them that they deserved it?I still cant belive they got away with hanging these kids.thier dead, because theyre gay.In the documantry is is a common belief, in some of the developing worlds, that homosexuality is a westernized concept, that homosexuals dont live in places in africa, or india, or the middle east.

In the documentry is was said, pretty much, that, in the 90s, in many of the developing countries that there was an increase in homosexual visability.More and more people were comming out and more and more talk was being done about homosexuals. These boys were hanged as examples to the other gay and lesbian youth of that and other countries saying, basically we dont want to see homosexuals in our country we dont want to know that your here we dont like you because your diffrent

Basically trying to push homosexuals back into the closet and lock the door.It just sickens me to see the depths humanity will sink to try and opress others.Do they think that if they hang two young boys or arrest young men on a boat/nightclub and torture them that they will rid their country of homosexuals?!?!?

I just hope that the glbt people of those regions dont get intimidated.President Bush hasnt said not one word on this subject, or about the boys hanging, or about the cairo 52, NOTHING?!?! I can say, for sure, that if Clinton was still president he would have come out and at least denounce or criticize these actions.President Bush?!?! where is he?!?! well hes on vacation, trying to ignore a womans pleas to speak with him about her dead son who died because of a war he was fighting to supposedly protect human rights.NOT ONE WORD?!?!

By the way, the two boys that were hanged in iraq for crimes of being gay well, their names were Mahmoud Asgari who was about 15 yrs. old and Ayaz Marhoni, who was about 16 yrs. old. I just think we should use their names and remember they were just kids, and first and fore most, humans.I posted two links below on the two stories for you to check out...



Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Bigdan on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 12:32 am: Edit

You know, I dont remember which congressman said this but, there has bin a quote from a congressman that said, in regaurds to the situation after the katrina hurricaneWe have had our first 9/11 test and have failed miserably.I cant remember the name of the congressman.I know Im not the only one that can see that this was disgustingly handled.The people to blame come from the top too.

I saw on the daily show the other day a number of tv interview quotes from the bush adminitration AND bush himself saying we dont need to play the blame game and jon stewart said, the ones who say, in any situation, dont play the blame game, ARE THE ONES TO BLAME!! This leaves a big ugly scar on the face of americans for the kind of responces I have heard and seen in the eyes of the rest of the world.

heres a lovelty little quote from that privileged, class separatist barbara bush and you know the apple, Im sure doesnt fall far from the tree
And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this -- this she chuckles slightly is working very well for them.
-- Barbara Bush, quoted by on National Public Radios Marketplace program, on New Orleans residents evacuated and re-located to the Astrodome in Houston.

It really says something about ur society and/or the people running this country that they can respond quickly and jump into action when theres a war going on but, when a natural disaster, particularly in an area where most of the people are poor, or rather black and poor then I guess those in the higher up positions who have the ability to do something about it, must consider those people to be expendable?!?!

I am so completly disgusted with bush and his horsemen of the Apocalypse, he calls his administration, that its left me bitter. I was always a tad bit bitter, but now... Im just really hurt.Its bin said that if this disaster happened in a place like beverly hills, you can bet that there would have bin a better organization and relief effort and chances are evacuation days in advance, if this were to happen there.

heres another sick story...The evacuation of Superdome refugees was interrupted briefly when school buses rolled up so some 700 guests and employees from the Hyatt hotel. They were move to the head of the line to be evacuated -- much to the amazement of those who had been crammed in the stinking Superdome for days.

The 700 had been trapped in the Hyatt just like the others, but conditions were considerably cleaner, even without running water, than the unsanitary crush inside the dome.I guess money talks and poor people die, right? is this what that is telling me?!?!

heres another...I heard that there was a guy whose mother was trapped in a nursing home and was told that help is comming to get her, on monday, then on tuesday, still no help, but a promise that someone is comming to get her, then the same on thursday and on friday, she was pronounce dead on friday... she drowned.
again, Ill say, this is negligence, from the top.it sickend me to see a picture of president bush excepting a guitar, with a big ole smile on his face just days after this hurricane hit.

If im not mistaken mr. bush was on vacation recently, I think he was still on vacation when this storm came in...
My synical attitude towards him makes me wonder if, he put out an order to everyone that they are not to come up to him to tell him any news unless it was terrorisim. cause, fater all, hes on vacation, he has no need to be bothered with the world or life. a well deserved vacatin too, I mean after all, he hasnt bin on vacation since march?!!? thats a long time between vacations, right?!?! Im being sarcastic here.

Of course another example of the sickness of humanity is the article where the editor says, black people were looting and white people were just finding food.thats pretty blatant, and low.I really hope that, at least, that guy was fired.Wolf Blitzer from cnn made a Freudian slip on air recently and while video was being shown of people wading through the water, he says they are so poor and they are so BLACK!! I shit you not! look it up.

Of course the main people to blame, in this whole fiasco,will not be fired, chances are pretty good, bush will show how black his heart is and give em all awards for bravery or something?!?! Im totally sick.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Mark on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 04:02 pm: Edit

Reading the article in todays chronicle about the teens murder was awful! What does this have to do with politics? Everything! When you have Rod Parsley and his collegues from Colorado Springs to Pennsylvania Avenue using Hate as political leverage it is more important than ever we get together in unity to do whatever we can in halting the shift to the right of far-right. Previously, I worked with students at Kent State who could have had the same fate as Jay. While I did not know the man, it is sad to hear and I hope it is not diminished by our own community as it will be by police because he may have been engaging in prostitution. We need to look at why a gay teen goes from a scholar and track star to prostitution, not blame the victim.

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